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  What Is The "Typical" Elder In The Organization Like Now?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was an elder, most of the elders were pretty independent 40 to 80 year olds.

  they had no issue speaking up to the circuit overseer.

  i wonder what the average elder is like now.

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  At the KMS in 2010 it was discussed that average age of Elders stands at 58 and of ministerials at 53 . Guess that not much has improved since then.
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  Behavior Control (Page 22 - Freedom of Mind by Steven Hassan)
  - Encourage group-think (not stumbling others)
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  Long serving pioneer no longer has hours quota to stay on the list...

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a family member visited us this past weekend and said that my 80 years old mother was recently told she no longer has to meet the annual hour quota to remain on the pioneer list.

  "what a loving provision from the brothers" were my sister's exact words.

  "mom was so stressed out with having to get her hours in every month" are you freaking kidding me?

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  This is meant to keep the pioneer numbers artificially up.
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  40 Publishers

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heh, publishers..... was talking with my mother the other day.

  in the 17 years i've been out, my old congregation's publishers have drastically dropped.

  when i was going , we were in the high 80s for publishers.

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  Hasn't Jehovah resolved the situation with this elder yet?

  This elder has pestered 40 people away from everlasting life!
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  OCTOBER AWAKE!

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just seen the new awake on jw.org; yet another university graduate, biochemist this time, that has become a jw.. he was so impressed by "is there a creator who cares?"!.

  the rest of the magazine is the usual monthly fare.. george.

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  http://evolutionwiki.org/wiki/Is_There_a_Creator_Who_Cares_About_You%3F
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  OCTOBER AWAKE!

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just seen the new awake on jw.org; yet another university graduate, biochemist this time, that has become a jw.. he was so impressed by "is there a creator who cares?"!.

  the rest of the magazine is the usual monthly fare.. george.

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  Dany Loos needs to check the references and misquotes in "Is there a creator who cares less?"
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  Part of "Human Apostates" talk missing?

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for full disclosure, i did not personally go to the convention on the day of the talk, but am going on my wife's recollection and her thorough notes.. when she got home, i asked her about the part and what was said, point by point from the beginning of the talk.

  i then mentioned this point (lifted from the other thread ):.

  "for instance, in one country a news report instigated by apostates falsely stated that jehovahs witnesses supported hitlers regime during world war two.

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  On JWR we had one member go to the DC this past weekend, with the transcript in hand and she noticed this past missing too. This has since the first conventions been removed from the manuscript. Given that the speakers must stick to the letter of the script, it is not an own decision to leave something out. Therefore the GB must have seen this already backfiring, or seen on apostate sites that we were discussing how this could backfire and had it taken out.
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  Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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  My tippping point was at the 2008DC, taking receipt of the "God's Love" book and reading in the appendix how DFed minors were supposed to be shunned. I looked at my daughters and knew I would never shun them for whatever reason and did not agree with this. That same evening I researched my doubts online and was out. Perhaps this talk will wake a few % up too.
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  JWs Just Don't Want To Think....

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don't want to think about their past, present or future.. they ignore any obvious weakness in "the truth".. they won't question their leader's viewpoints.. they will follow what the governing body (the faithful & discreet slave) says even if they flipflop a hundred times.. it's embarrassing to see millions of people refuse to think.. the only silver lining is that many of us were just like the witnesses of today.

  there is hope!.

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  They certainly do not follow the biblical example of the Bereans in Acts 17 who investigated everything and did not think that research was a waste of time.
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  Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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  In contract with this shocking talk - according to their website (jw.org) JWs do NOT Shun:

  http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/